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	<title>Comments on: Doubts over deposition trial: CEN 3.21.08 p 7.</title>
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		<title>By: Andy Hook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Hook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with Cathy.  I&#039;m a Mennonite pastor who wants to be an Anglican priest.  I cannot in good conscience join TEC because I do not believe they are being faithful and it seems that the PB, while speaking of tolerance and acceptance, wants to eliminate all who disagree with her.  It reminds me vaguely of Star Wars and the rise of the Emperor.  But I digress.  I easily can see the Devil working through all of this to tear the Church into shreds.  It is his mission to destroy God&#039;s Church and he is succeeding in this.  We must fight against him.  We should pray not only for Bishop Schofield that he remains strong, but we must also pray for Schori.  It may be easy to see her as an enemy, but she is till a sister in Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with Cathy.  I&#8217;m a Mennonite pastor who wants to be an Anglican priest.  I cannot in good conscience join TEC because I do not believe they are being faithful and it seems that the PB, while speaking of tolerance and acceptance, wants to eliminate all who disagree with her.  It reminds me vaguely of Star Wars and the rise of the Emperor.  But I digress.  I easily can see the Devil working through all of this to tear the Church into shreds.  It is his mission to destroy God&#8217;s Church and he is succeeding in this.  We must fight against him.  We should pray not only for Bishop Schofield that he remains strong, but we must also pray for Schori.  It may be easy to see her as an enemy, but she is till a sister in Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sons and Daughters of Christ unite!! 
Let&#039;s use Love to overcome with His Might, 
the problems that are giving Christ&#039;s Church such a blight. 

Satan is having a field day with us,
detracting from Christ and raising a fuss.
So, stop and think, &quot;Who&#039;s driving this bus?&quot;

Overcome the anger, the egos, the greed 
and let&#039;s give each other the things that we need 
to do Christ&#039;s work, and help each other succeed.

The situation may not be considered quite fair,
by those with their noses still stuck in the air,
but Christ gave the answer: raise enemies in prayer.

The day we are standing in front of the Son
we&#039;ll know that, for us, the battle is won.
But right now, look around. There&#039;s Work to be done!

In the Spirit of Love, C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sons and Daughters of Christ unite!!<br />
Let&#8217;s use Love to overcome with His Might,<br />
the problems that are giving Christ&#8217;s Church such a blight. </p>
<p>Satan is having a field day with us,<br />
detracting from Christ and raising a fuss.<br />
So, stop and think, &#8220;Who&#8217;s driving this bus?&#8221;</p>
<p>Overcome the anger, the egos, the greed<br />
and let&#8217;s give each other the things that we need<br />
to do Christ&#8217;s work, and help each other succeed.</p>
<p>The situation may not be considered quite fair,<br />
by those with their noses still stuck in the air,<br />
but Christ gave the answer: raise enemies in prayer.</p>
<p>The day we are standing in front of the Son<br />
we&#8217;ll know that, for us, the battle is won.<br />
But right now, look around. There&#8217;s Work to be done!</p>
<p>In the Spirit of Love, C.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 03:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well.....when the end justify the means, this is what you get.  TEC, IMHO, no longer holds any &quot;moral authority&quot; to wit: DEPO, Dar es Salaam...even back to Lambeth 1998 resolutions regarding &quot;scriptural authority&quot;.  TEC has become  just another &#039;feel good&#039; church.  Hence my departure to OCA!
Peace,
Barry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;..when the end justify the means, this is what you get.  TEC, IMHO, no longer holds any &#8220;moral authority&#8221; to wit: DEPO, Dar es Salaam&#8230;even back to Lambeth 1998 resolutions regarding &#8220;scriptural authority&#8221;.  TEC has become  just another &#8216;feel good&#8217; church.  Hence my departure to OCA!<br />
Peace,<br />
Barry</p>
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		<title>By: 360</title>
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		<dc:creator>360</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3 Dave
It&#039;s a double black eye if KJS accepts Schofield&#039;s resignation ..NOW.  She made it perfectly clear before HOB and at the press meeting after HOB that Schofield&#039;s letter failed to resign from jurisdiction in San Joaquin.  So in that one statement Schori acknowledged Schofield as possessing jurisdiction of San Joaquin [hence the letter is inadequate] AND the requirement that Schofield HAD to be deposed to remove him from jurisdiction in San Joaquin.  With the failure to depose she is stuck with the first statement; Schofield has jurisdiction of San Joaquin.  She better start cancelling flight &amp; hotel reservations for the 28/29th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3 Dave<br />
It&#8217;s a double black eye if KJS accepts Schofield&#8217;s resignation ..NOW.  She made it perfectly clear before HOB and at the press meeting after HOB that Schofield&#8217;s letter failed to resign from jurisdiction in San Joaquin.  So in that one statement Schori acknowledged Schofield as possessing jurisdiction of San Joaquin [hence the letter is inadequate] AND the requirement that Schofield HAD to be deposed to remove him from jurisdiction in San Joaquin.  With the failure to depose she is stuck with the first statement; Schofield has jurisdiction of San Joaquin.  She better start cancelling flight &amp; hotel reservations for the 28/29th.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, now KJS is up against it.  The only way to &quot;clear the decks&quot; for the new bishop will be to either:
a.  Ignore the cannons or
b.  Accept Bishop Schofield&#039;s resignation.

Either way, a black eye for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, now KJS is up against it.  The only way to &#8220;clear the decks&#8221; for the new bishop will be to either:<br />
a.  Ignore the cannons or<br />
b.  Accept Bishop Schofield&#8217;s resignation.</p>
<p>Either way, a black eye for her.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TEC should have elected a uniter, not a hard-line divider as PB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TEC should have elected a uniter, not a hard-line divider as PB.</p>
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		<title>By: 360</title>
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		<dc:creator>360</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Canon Conger,
The process for abandonment is not a trial [the word trial does not appear anywhere in Canon IV.9].  There are no witnesses, no rebuttal evidence allowed, no judge or jury, no appeal or review.  Only a vote by HOB.  That&#039;s why the majority needed isn&#039;t just those who are present but of a &quot;majority of the whole number of Bishops entitled to vote&quot;.  Bishop Schofield may not consider himself the Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of San Joaquin, but TEC can not seat another Bishop without first legally removing Schofield from that position.  It really messes up the TEC plans to hold a convention [with boundary crossing by the PB and Bp. Lamb] on March 29.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canon Conger,<br />
The process for abandonment is not a trial [the word trial does not appear anywhere in Canon IV.9].  There are no witnesses, no rebuttal evidence allowed, no judge or jury, no appeal or review.  Only a vote by HOB.  That&#8217;s why the majority needed isn&#8217;t just those who are present but of a &#8220;majority of the whole number of Bishops entitled to vote&#8221;.  Bishop Schofield may not consider himself the Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of San Joaquin, but TEC can not seat another Bishop without first legally removing Schofield from that position.  It really messes up the TEC plans to hold a convention [with boundary crossing by the PB and Bp. Lamb] on March 29.</p>
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